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"It is impossible for someone to lie unless he thinks he knows the truth. Producing bullshit requires no such conviction. A person who lies is thereby responding to the truth, and he is to that extent respectful of it. When an honest man speaks, he says only what he believes to be true; and for the liar, it is correspondingly indispensable that he considers his statements to be false. For the bullshitter, however, all these bets are off: he is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose." – Harry G. Frankfurt
I have been a Bitcoiner since 2012, mostly on the side line. It's obvious to me that a lot of bullshitters are making this community toxic. This is not happening only in this community but in the world at large. Facts are no longer important and many times ignored completely. It is so plainly obvious that the majority of BU-supporters do not understand how BU work (note: some do). The majority of this community do not understand how Bitcoin work in general, to be fair. People arguing with /u/nullc usually is like reading an argument between a three year old and a published scientist on whether the scientists conclusion on his research is sound or not.
It is probably time to start mining at a loss to support segwit. More old time holders should.